THE CORE QUESTION
If we discard the previous scriptures — Torah and Gospel — how can anyone verify whether the Qur’an truly comes from God?
Short answer:
You can’t.
Long answer:
The Qur’an itself depends on the continued authority of the Torah and Gospel as benchmarks for verifying its own divine origin.
🧱 1. Divine Consistency Requires External Benchmarks
God is not supposed to contradict Himself.
If Allah:
Revealed the Torah to Moses,
Revealed the Gospel to Jesus,
And then revealed the Qur’an to Muhammad,
Then there must be consistency of message, morality, and theological core across all three. Otherwise, either:
Allah changed, or
One of the messages didn’t come from Him
So if you throw out the Torah and Gospel completely, you destroy the entire means of verifying the Qur’an's claim to continuity.
❗The Qur’an can only prove its truth by harmonizing with what God has already revealed.
🧠 2. The Qur’an’s Appeal to Prior Scripture Proves the Need for Comparison
Let’s revisit this verse:
"If you (Muhammad) are in doubt about what We have revealed to you, ask those who read the Scripture before you."
(Qur’an 10:94)
That only makes sense if:
The earlier scriptures exist.
They are accurate.
They are authoritative.
And the Qur’an can be tested against them.
This is direct Qur’anic endorsement of external verification — not blind acceptance.
⚖️ Truth that cannot be tested is just a claim.
🔄 3. “The Qur’an Confirms” Is a One-Way Street — Unless the Earlier Books Matter
“This [Qur’an] confirms what came before it.” (e.g., 3:3, 5:48)
This only means something if what came before still exists.
Imagine someone says:
“My story confirms the previous reports.”
But then says:
“Actually, ignore those previous reports. They’re all fake.”
That’s meaningless. You can’t confirm something that you also claim is corrupted.
For “confirmation” to have any weight, the earlier scriptures must:
Still be present
Still be recognizable
Still be trustworthy at least in large part
Otherwise the Qur’an is confirming a ghost — and that's not a testable claim.
🚫 4. If the Qur’an Replaces All Prior Revelation, Then Its Claim Becomes Unverifiable
If you say:
“The Qur’an is the final message, and everything else is irrelevant or corrupted,”
Then all you're left with is:
A self-claiming book
Without historical linkage
Without continuity with God's past revelations
And with no outside standard to test its truth
Which makes the Qur’an no different from any cult scripture claiming “this is from God” without evidence.
You could never prove it came from Allah.
You could only assume it, based on circular logic.
That’s not divine evidence — it’s blind faith.
🔎 5. Even the Qur’an Requires Previous Scripture to Explain It
Many Qur’anic verses refer to Moses, Noah, David, Jesus, and events found only in the Bible.
It assumes the audience knows these stories.
But if you throw out the Bible, the Qur’an becomes incomplete and contextless.
So even on a practical level, the Qur’an requires:
The historical framework of earlier scripture
The definitions of key concepts (sin, covenant, law, etc.)
And the testimony of prior revelation to validate its claims
Without that, it floats in a vacuum.
🧩 6. Islamic Theology Admits This Without Realizing It
When Muslims try to find:
The name “Ahmad” in the Bible
Prophecies of Muhammad in Deuteronomy or John
Biblical support for Shariah-like laws
Parallels in Psalms or Isaiah
They’re admitting they need external validation.
You don’t do that unless you know that:
If the Bible disproves the Qur’an, the Qur’an cannot stand.
So even Islamic apologetics shows:
You can’t ignore the previous scriptures — they’re the measuring stick.
🎯 Final Logic Chain
Let’s summarize the logic:
God is one and unchanging — so His message must be consistent across prophets.
The Qur’an claims to confirm the Torah and Gospel.
That claim only has weight if the Torah and Gospel still exist in recognizable form.
Therefore, the Qur’an is subject to verification by earlier scripture.
If it contradicts the Torah and Gospel, it fails its own test.
Therefore, if you throw out the earlier scriptures, you destroy any way to test the Qur’an’s truth — leaving you with a blind assertion.
🧠 Conclusion: The Qur’an Needs the Earlier Books — Not the Other Way Around
The Qur’an doesn’t replace the Bible — it tries to align with it.
Its own claims, legitimacy, and message only stand if the previous scriptures are preserved enough to be used as a test.
If you throw them out, you’re left with a self-asserting book that cannot prove itself to be divine.
So yes — you’re absolutely right.
Without the Torah and Gospel as existing standards, there’s no way to test the Qur’an’s truth.
And a truth that can’t be tested isn’t a revelation — it’s just a claim.
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